Re: [eGovINDIA] NISG had done it again. C1 gets the e-biz tender from NISG. God Save India
Umashankar C <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
With profound sorrow I wish to bring to your notice
that NISG had finalised the tender for the E-biz
initiative in favour of C1 India.
The reason for my concern is as follows:
The CEO of C1 India met me in Bhubaneswar during the
8th National E-gov conference (Feb, 2005) and proposed
me that I should submit some e-gov proposals and he
would get the same cleared for national level
The way in which he spoke gave the indication as
though he had every one in his pocket.
Apparently he has Mr.Sathyanarayana of NISG in his
And so C1 India which was hitherto unknown to Indians
became a great e-gov service provider for
e-procurement. The pricing methodology adopted was to
offer a percentage of the tender sum to the service
provider! This is nothing but a huge fraud. Now the
e-biz tender has gone in favour of C1. They would have
finalised an other path breaking revenue model, even
beating the e-procurement model!
I got information yesterday that both Ram Infotech and
C1 India worked with Mr.Sathyanarayana when he served
as IT Secretary in AP.
So any tender would be finalised only in favour of his
known companies whether they are capable or not is
A huge scale corruption is being perpetrated by my
colleague Mr.Sathyanarayana which has to be stopped.
It is a wonder that NISG which Mr.Sathyanarayana has
been heading with no known e-gov specialist on board
has been finalising thousands of crores of rupees
worth e-gov projects. And NISG is a private company.
How a private company is allowed to have this corrupt
I have a feeling that the higher ups in the Government
of India, I mean my colleagues in the IT ministry have
a role to play in this!
I am a member of the national level committee for
implementation of national e-gov action plan. But I
have not got any invitation to attend meeting so far.
NISG has been busy selling the country in the
God save India!
C.Umashankar IAS., (TamilNadu Cadre)
e-governance expert and Member (Special Invitee) – Working group for implementation of National e-governance action plan, Government of India, New Delhi.
Dear Mr. Umashankar,
Either you do curruption or you knowingly bear curruption, you are currupted, “SO AS WE ALL ARE CURRUPTED”.
I believe no one will bother with these lines and will not even realize how helpless or rather say how Coward we have graduted towards.
In my earlier postings i have tried to mention the security lapses maintained intentionally in e-Procurement in A.P. to play around with Rs. 15000 crore or more on mercy of NISG or C1.
I had tried to APPEAL to all the concerned that e-Governance may be taken off by bringing transparency on its root level ie; it should be made mandatory that all the Tendering Procedures should be made Public at each and every stage and hence we may think of Realizing Optimum Value of Public Money realized in Bringing Growth to them and hence to the Nation.
I again doubt on many bogus members of our group who intentionally deviate the seriousness of group and make some serious group members to be kept aloof.
I Invite Attention of everybodies inner MORAL (if still Live) to come Forward and take up NISG and C1, and few others like them to the Public Court, having a belief if all the Four Pillars of Democracy including media is not got Paralyzed completely. My inner belief is that it has not got completely so, let us strengthen the Pillars and take initiative.
I propose to file a PIL on these Curruption issues specific to the e-Governance initiative to first eradicate such misappropriation of Public Fund and further try to get some strict Law and Constitution to put all Culprints who play around with e-Governance to undergo a sentence of “DESHDROH” and be penalized substancially, These hearing again should be tackeled in ‘Fast Courts”.
Mr. Umashankar, i`m sorry that you are not liking the pocket of CEO of C1, it could have Heavenly Comfort and strong Financial Security, so you should not wait for invitation from NEGAP, rather you may receive expulsion or cancellation of your status. To rectify that you may think of searching a right place in his pocket (I`m sure many will be in Line, even from this group to have some space in his Pocket, My GoddWishes are with them.
Let us form an specific Action Committe within us to battle with these lines of open Curruption in space of e-Governance. I propose to search only one Dead Honest Judicial Person to head this committe and let us colloborate for Good e-Governance unlike of NISG. why am i proposing Dead Honest because the chosen one should not start searching godd place in his pocket.
I`m confident “We Shall Overcome………”
All the concerned Members, With a request to search if your Inner is there?
Dr. Manoj Verma
Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:35:15 +0100 (BST)
“manoj verma” email@example.com
[eGovINDIA] Regarding C1
Tue, 26 Apr 2005 00:12:08 -0700 (PDT)
C1 is a company using all the means it can to get business, many a
number of government officials even in top levels are involved and in
support of such companies for one or other ethical and unethical reasons. I
am sure each and every action is justifiable as long as the justice as
such is not getting tampered with.
E Governance if justfully enabled will be a boon to country such as
ours due to its obvious benefits. The pathetic aspect is the companies
such as C1 and those supporting such companies are willingly acting
against the future of the nation.
They should be treated as anti nationals as such.
If I am correct then the company C1 is just a dealer for Commerce One a
Bankrupt US based company whose IPR was auctioned and sold off to some
German based firm.
How can C1 be ever trusted with such critical initiatives such as E
I just wish make a comment here that “Those who have the power to
correct the wrong and simply not taking the correct measures are only
allowing the wrong get more and more deep routed”
Thanking You for reading this message
With Warm Regards
E Procurement Consultant
Dear Mr. Umashankar,
An oblique comment (does not address the central,
serious issue of cooked up tendering process but
something to be aware of in the globalized world):
Googled for “C1 India” and followed some links. Looks
like C1 India is not part of the US company whose technology
it might be using.
It is simply a distributor, not a subsidiary, of
Commerce One US. The point being, US companies and
their executives can be prosecuted under US laws for
bribing overseas. Therefore, if furnished the evidence
of such bribing in India, one could even go to the
district attorney in Santa Clara county where Commerce
One is based. If there is an involvement of Commerce
One officers/employees in bribing, I am here to take
the case to the public prosecutor. A long shot. But
worth pursuing as one of the prongs in the strategy.
The DA offices have a lot of discretion whether to
pursue or not, but it is only DAs in the US that
are expected to be activist and do go after the
likes of Enrons and Worldcom.
Tue, 26 Apr 2005 06:47:29 -0000
Dear Mr. Sanjay,
If you research, you will find that Commerce One, US has got Bankurpt and afterwards one German Firm had taken it over, C1 India earlier was a distributor of Commerce One US and had cheated a lot companies with their that association, M/S Antares System had lodged the FIRST REPORTED CYBER CRIME against C1 India aginst infringment of IPR of Antares System, Bangalore in 2003 which is still under trial in High Court Delhi.
I doubt C1 India will have any relation now with sold out Commerce One currently. But NISG could be taken in account as you suggested being a organization promoted by UNDP fund and that will help India a lot to ALARM other J. Satyanarayan in making in India to sabotage the right e-Governance initiative.
Dr. Manoj Verma
Wed, 27 Apr 2005 06:42:00 +0100 (BST)
“manoj verma” firstname.lastname@example.org
eGov INDIA <email@example.com> wrote:
Dear S DANI,
I do not think it is affiliated with any US company. Here is some information about the company.
“This initiative is a part of the state government’s efforts to increase efficiencies in all its departments through faster and more transparent automated procurement procedures.
In C1 India we have found a committed partner whose support and dedication to this project is commendable.”
– Principal Secretary (IT&C),
Government of Andhra Pradesh
“The Andhra Pradesh government has saved a whopping Rs 616.27 crore in 2003-04 because of its use of the e-procurement platform.
In fact, so successful has been the e-procurement practice that the total amount spent by the government on 1,212 projects amounting to an estimated Rs 2,801 crore is 22 per cent lower than its own estimations.”Publication: Business Standard
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AP saves Rs 616cr via e-procurement
DGS&D goes live with e-tender
Kumaraswamy V. M.
Dear Mr. Sanjay,
Again dodging to the public, i have earlier informed that what Indian IT Act Recommends and why till 1st March 2005, it was not followed, it could cause a serious Security violation in helping the Vested Interest people, either System Administrator(C1 India), A.P. Govt. Officials, any particular Vendor or nexus of either or all mentioned.
It is again doubt ful why for Two Years an Indian IT Act was openly been violated.
I have posted few more postings on this issue recently you may view those to have Crystal Clear Picture on the same, So as it has got repeated with the Tender invited by NIC for e-Procurement, again NISG short of an Unlawful, non-transparent favor had extended to C1 India by NIC Officials.
I`m repeatedly asking CVC, NIC, NISG, APTS, Andhra Pradesh IT Deptt., DGS&D to publish the Tendering procedures adopted for selecting C1 India, but no one is responding confirms the smoke more thicker.
This is to update you.
Dr. Manoj Verma